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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun 28 Aug - 4:42:25

tupaijet_junior wrote:

ape pndapat korg kalau polish sume lubang kat blok..?
scratch

polish sume lobang? cm pelik je... biasenye org polish lobang silinder
sbb calar nipis...calar dlm baru up size...lobang2 lain org korek je
trus... Surprised Surprised Surprised
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Dino wrote:
tupaijet_junior wrote:

ape pndapat korg kalau polish sume lubang kat blok..?
scratch

polish sume lobang? cm pelik je... biasenye org polish lobang silinder
sbb calar nipis...calar dlm baru up size...lobang2 lain org korek je
trus... Surprised Surprised Surprised

aq pnh tgk blok tu licin je dalam nye...
mamat tupai 2 ckp, kasi polish2 je....blink2...
ok ke performance nye dari stended:study:
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YapBKX3048 wrote:
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Nie ha aku share skit... pandai2 kowg la ye... drunken drunken drunken

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- hehe..mcm kenal je blok maping nie...tgi ekzos port 27mm sesuai utk piston 56mm keatas aka 2.00 tupai/0.0 Enduro/Dt125...
- Pendapat nubis...paling penting adalah ekzos port...
- kelebaran ekzos port..boost Low -midrange (pickup) Very Happy
-ketinggian ekzos port..boost midrange - high rpm (top speed) Very Happy
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chaklek wrote:
YapBKX3048 wrote:
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Nie ha aku share skit... pandai2 kowg la ye... drunken drunken drunken

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- hehe..mcm kenal je blok maping nie...tgi ekzos port 27mm sesuai utk piston 56mm keatas aka 2.00 tupai/0.0 Enduro/Dt125...
- Pendapat nubis...paling penting adalah ekzos port...
- kelebaran ekzos port..boost Low -midrange (pickup) Very Happy
-ketinggian ekzos port..boost midrange - high rpm (top speed) Very Happy


haaaaa...otai da start reply post kat sini...ape2 psal blok, head dia mmg pakar...
korg tanye la dia ye Wink Wink Wink Wink
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maksudnye..nk tmbah topspeed..port lubang ekzos tu keatas dan kebawah la ye..lebar tak yah usek..gitu? buang bonggol je top rpm leh dpt brape ek
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TC wrote:
maksudnye..nk tmbah topspeed..port lubang ekzos tu keatas dan kebawah la ye..lebar tak yah usek..gitu? buang bonggol je top rpm leh dpt brape ek

- port lubang ekzos pon kena tgk port-timing area (BDC/TDC) jugak...kalo crankshaft @gransap Very Happy Very Happy ...x stroking aka std..port tinggi port sahaja...keatas sahaja...saya cuba upload pic nti ye...maklum la nubis ag...teraba-raba ...
- buang bonggol..+- 2mm...leh la 180kmh-190kmh... Very Happy ...tapi kalo port lebih besar dari 27mm...perlu jetting semula

p/S : ukaran ekzos port semakin kecil jumlah...semakin besar lubang...cth tgi std ekzos port 32mm..bila korek/port jadi 30mm....
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chaklek wrote:
TC wrote:
maksudnye..nk tmbah topspeed..port lubang ekzos tu keatas dan kebawah la ye..lebar tak yah usek..gitu? buang bonggol je top rpm leh dpt brape ek

- port lubang ekzos pon kena tgk port-timing area (BDC/TDC) jugak...kalo crankshaft @gransap Very Happy Very Happy ...x stroking aka std..port tinggi port sahaja...keatas sahaja...saya cuba upload pic nti ye...maklum la nubis ag...teraba-raba ...
- buang bonggol..+- 2mm...leh la 180kmh-190kmh... Very Happy ...tapi kalo port lebih besar dari 27mm...perlu jetting semula

p/S : ukaran ekzos port semakin kecil jumlah...semakin besar lubang...cth tgi std ekzos port 32mm..bila korek/port jadi 30mm....

xfhm la statement tu...kite korek/port utk besarkn...nape bile dh buat jd mkin kecik?
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Dino wrote:
chaklek wrote:
TC wrote:
maksudnye..nk tmbah topspeed..port lubang ekzos tu keatas dan kebawah la ye..lebar tak yah usek..gitu? buang bonggol je top rpm leh dpt brape ek

- port lubang ekzos pon kena tgk port-timing area (BDC/TDC) jugak...kalo crankshaft @gransap Very Happy Very Happy ...x stroking aka std..port tinggi port sahaja...keatas sahaja...saya cuba upload pic nti ye...maklum la nubis ag...teraba-raba ...
- buang bonggol..+- 2mm...leh la 180kmh-190kmh... Very Happy ...tapi kalo port lebih besar dari 27mm...perlu jetting semula

p/S : ukaran ekzos port semakin kecil jumlah...semakin besar lubang...cth tgi std ekzos port 32mm..bila korek/port jadi 30mm....

xfhm la statement tu...kite korek/port utk besarkn...nape bile dh buat jd mkin kecik?

Very Happy ...dia bukan jadi semakin kecik...cuma bacaan melalui kaedah pengukuran ekzos port jer...sebenarnya ia ttp makin besar..

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ni contoh cara ukur ekzos port...tapi kat blok drag rxz 66mm... Wink Wink

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naper power moto drop drpd dulu ea? piston ring pun da xbaper elok..
kalu tuka piston ring baru ngn polish balik blok agak2 power ade balik ke?
piston saiz 0.50.. carb rxz..
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shrinklefritz wrote:
naper power moto drop drpd dulu ea? piston ring pun da xbaper elok..
kalu tuka piston ring baru ngn polish balik blok agak2 power ade balik ke?
piston saiz 0.50.. carb rxz..

power loss...disebabkan byk faktor antaranya....bearing enjin yg semakin...lemah ..(lebih 4 tahun)...clucth plate haus...dll...sepatutnya tukar ring baru n polish ekzos port (buang arang) pasti leh upkan performance semula...benda2 lain yg leh wat...servis ekzos...carbs..head...good luck... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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mcm ni nk anta port kt bro chaklek la..member2 kan..upah teh o ais boleh tak? ngeee~
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TC wrote:
mcm ni nk anta port kt bro chaklek la..member2 kan..upah teh o ais boleh tak? ngeee~

- boleh xde hal..tapi kalo teh o ais...servis carbs je la.. Razz Evil or Very Mad Very Happy Very Happy ...bengkel kat melaka...kat KL jadi skema... bounce bounce
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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 3 Oct - 17:31:57

chaklek wrote:
shrinklefritz wrote:
naper power moto drop drpd dulu ea? piston ring pun da xbaper elok..
kalu tuka piston ring baru ngn polish balik blok agak2 power ade balik ke?
piston saiz 0.50.. carb rxz..

power loss...disebabkan byk faktor antaranya....bearing enjin yg semakin...lemah ..(lebih 4 tahun)...clucth plate haus...dll...sepatutnya tukar ring baru n polish ekzos port (buang arang) pasti leh upkan performance semula...benda2 lain yg leh wat...servis ekzos...carbs..head...good luck... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

ooo.. okeh2.. tukar ring dlu.. pastu polish balik.. kalu polish blok skali xpe ke? kedai mane leh wt ea? average baper rege?
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shrinklefritz wrote:
chaklek wrote:
shrinklefritz wrote:
naper power moto drop drpd dulu ea? piston ring pun da xbaper elok..
kalu tuka piston ring baru ngn polish balik blok agak2 power ade balik ke?
piston saiz 0.50.. carb rxz..

power loss...disebabkan byk faktor antaranya....bearing enjin yg semakin...lemah ..(lebih 4 tahun)...clucth plate haus...dll...sepatutnya tukar ring baru n polish ekzos port (buang arang) pasti leh upkan performance semula...benda2 lain yg leh wat...servis ekzos...carbs..head...good luck... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

ooo.. okeh2.. tukar ring dlu.. pastu polish balik.. kalu polish blok skali xpe ke? kedai mane leh wt ea? average baper rege?

- alang2 nak tukar ring...trs rebore je bro Very Happy Very Happy ...sekali rebore naik 0.25mm...kalo polish...event xcalar still dah ade clearance kat situ..masuk ring baru...silap2 lagi bising bunyi...d best rebore + ring baru...dah tentu fit... Laughing Laughing (pendapat junior mber)
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otai chaklek..nk tnye..slalu buka lubang xzos kalo stended bka 1 ke 2 mm??kiri kanan mau bka skali ke??piston 0.0
nk sedap bawak je..moto xlaju..huhu
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satria_zr wrote:
otai chaklek..nk tnye..slalu buka lubang xzos kalo stended bka 1 ke 2 mm??kiri kanan mau bka skali ke??piston 0.0
nk sedap bawak je..moto xlaju..huhu

biasanya bukak 1mm je tgi ekzos port..kiri kanan xyah usik...biarkan maintain 38mm...nie utk 0.0 la...

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**korek yg bahagian atas k...bukan bahagian bawah...mcm dalam pic nie...


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cmne kalo port lubang ekzos buang bonggol tu?
dgr cite dpt cecah 180+ kalo buat cmtu...org ckp la clown clown clown
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Dino wrote:
cmne kalo port lubang ekzos buang bonggol tu?
dgr cite dpt cecah 180+ kalo buat cmtu...org ckp la clown clown clown

kat sni bahagian bonggol yg di refer yg bahagian bawah kan??

- boleh jugak nak buat tapi utk 0.0 bore...rasenya xplu sbb bore terlalu comel...kalo dah bigbore mcm 56mm++...ok la nak kacau area situ sket...semakin besar bore semakin besar jumlah ...pembakaran (bahan api + udara)...jadi proses pembuangan gas melalui ekzos port pon perlu lebih lancar (besar)....

-kalo nak 180+...layan stock pon leh dapat...cuma lambat atau cepat je la... santa santa Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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chaklek wrote:
shrinklefritz wrote:
chaklek wrote:
shrinklefritz wrote:
naper power moto drop drpd dulu ea? piston ring pun da xbaper elok..
kalu tuka piston ring baru ngn polish balik blok agak2 power ade balik ke?
piston saiz 0.50.. carb rxz..

power loss...disebabkan byk faktor antaranya....bearing enjin yg semakin...lemah ..(lebih 4 tahun)...clucth plate haus...dll...sepatutnya tukar ring baru n polish ekzos port (buang arang) pasti leh upkan performance semula...benda2 lain yg leh wat...servis ekzos...carbs..head...good luck... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

ooo.. okeh2.. tukar ring dlu.. pastu polish balik.. kalu polish blok skali xpe ke? kedai mane leh wt ea? average baper rege?

- alang2 nak tukar ring...trs rebore je bro Very Happy Very Happy ...sekali rebore naik 0.25mm...kalo polish...event xcalar still dah ade clearance kat situ..masuk ring baru...silap2 lagi bising bunyi...d best rebore + ring baru...dah tentu fit... Laughing Laughing (pendapat junior mber)

tp kalau dah rebore maknenye piston saye da jd saiz 0.75 sbb skang pun da 0.50.. setting carb sume nk kne kacau balik ke xyah? malas nk kacau setting.. setting da cun2.. minyak sume okay da.. cume bunyi je bising ngn power kureng..

tp kalau saye tuka piston ring je okay ke? x polish.. just tuka ring ngn port ekzos.. buang arang sume.. okay ke?
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- kalo tukar ring je without rebore or polish...pon boleh...cuma effectnya ring baru..fitting keras ag...lama kelamaan akan menghakis dinding blok...nasib baik bunyi jadi x bising...kalo nasib xbaik...bunyi akan lebih bising dari dulu...sebab tue sy cadangkan trs rebore...sebab dapat piston + ring baru trs..kalo blok std xpyh jetting balik minyak+angin...tapi kalo dah nakal tue..mmg la kena clown clown ...just pendapat junior...kalo salah tolong betolkan Very Happy Very Happy
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chaklek wrote:
Dino wrote:
cmne kalo port lubang ekzos buang bonggol tu?
dgr cite dpt cecah 180+ kalo buat cmtu...org ckp la clown clown clown

kat sni bahagian bonggol yg di refer yg bahagian bawah kan??

- boleh jugak nak buat tapi utk 0.0 bore...rasenya xplu sbb bore terlalu comel...kalo dah bigbore mcm 56mm++...ok la nak kacau area situ sket...semakin besar bore semakin besar jumlah ...pembakaran (bahan api + udara)...jadi proses pembuangan gas melalui ekzos port pon perlu lebih lancar (besar)....

-kalo nak 180+...layan stock pon leh dapat...cuma lambat atau cepat je la... santa santa Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

lyan stock leh dpt 180+? cmne caranye? stakat tuka spocket, trun bukit leh la dpt Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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aiyooo..pening la blok2 ni.. scratch scratch
hahhhaha..aku dah byk kali jem
mule2 tukar ngn membe pki blok sz 0.75..ape lubang penyembur mcm bro fizz gtaw
yg steel tgh2 antar lubang tu dah nipis mcm sirip..
skali bobos..rod tembus piston..pomen ckp angin lebih.. No No No
skang dah piston dh saiz 150..jem panas plak..xtahu sape pandai setting..
tolong! tolong .. cheers cheers cheers
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chaklek wrote:
satria_zr wrote:
otai chaklek..nk tnye..slalu buka lubang xzos kalo stended bka 1 ke 2 mm??kiri kanan mau bka skali ke??piston 0.0
nk sedap bawak je..moto xlaju..huhu

biasanya bukak 1mm je tgi ekzos port..kiri kanan xyah usik...biarkan maintain 38mm...nie utk 0.0 la...

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**korek yg bahagian atas k...bukan bahagian bawah...mcm dalam pic nie...




hehe..thanx chaklek..jasa mu dikenang..dr insan penat di tinggal kt blakang time blik tnjg malim
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Dino wrote:
chaklek wrote:
Dino wrote:
cmne kalo port lubang ekzos buang bonggol tu?
dgr cite dpt cecah 180+ kalo buat cmtu...org ckp la clown clown clown

kat sni bahagian bonggol yg di refer yg bahagian bawah kan??

- boleh jugak nak buat tapi utk 0.0 bore...rasenya xplu sbb bore terlalu comel...kalo dah bigbore mcm 56mm++...ok la nak kacau area situ sket...semakin besar bore semakin besar jumlah ...pembakaran (bahan api + udara)...jadi proses pembuangan gas melalui ekzos port pon perlu lebih lancar (besar)....

-kalo nak 180+...layan stock pon leh dapat...cuma lambat atau cepat je la... santa santa Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

lyan stock leh dpt 180+? cmne caranye? stakat tuka spocket, trun bukit leh la dpt Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


konfius..din ckap moto stended tp laju..aku men spoket pn xdpt ikut din la.. drunken drunken
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chaklek wrote:
- kalo tukar ring je without rebore or polish...pon boleh...cuma effectnya ring baru..fitting keras ag...lama kelamaan akan menghakis dinding blok...nasib baik bunyi jadi x bising...kalo nasib xbaik...bunyi akan lebih bising dari dulu...sebab tue sy cadangkan trs rebore...sebab dapat piston + ring baru trs..kalo blok std xpyh jetting balik minyak+angin...tapi kalo dah nakal tue..mmg la kena clown clown ...just pendapat junior...kalo salah tolong betolkan Very Happy Very Happy

haha.. blok x nakal agi.. cume piston je nakal.. hehe..so xyah set pun xpe kan.. sbb pkai carb z..
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