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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Wed 28 Sep - 20:34:12

mcm ni nk anta port kt bro chaklek la..member2 kan..upah teh o ais boleh tak? ngeee~
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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Wed 28 Sep - 20:50:35

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mcm ni nk anta port kt bro chaklek la..member2 kan..upah teh o ais boleh tak? ngeee~

- boleh xde hal..tapi kalo teh o ais...servis carbs je la.. Razz Evil or Very Mad Very Happy Very Happy ...bengkel kat melaka...kat KL jadi skema... bounce bounce

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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Mon 3 Oct - 17:31:57

chaklek wrote:
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naper power moto drop drpd dulu ea? piston ring pun da xbaper elok..
kalu tuka piston ring baru ngn polish balik blok agak2 power ade balik ke?
piston saiz 0.50.. carb rxz..

power loss...disebabkan byk faktor antaranya....bearing enjin yg semakin...lemah ..(lebih 4 tahun)...clucth plate haus...dll...sepatutnya tukar ring baru n polish ekzos port (buang arang) pasti leh upkan performance semula...benda2 lain yg leh wat...servis ekzos...carbs..head...good luck... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

ooo.. okeh2.. tukar ring dlu.. pastu polish balik.. kalu polish blok skali xpe ke? kedai mane leh wt ea? average baper rege?
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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Mon 3 Oct - 19:37:10

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naper power moto drop drpd dulu ea? piston ring pun da xbaper elok..
kalu tuka piston ring baru ngn polish balik blok agak2 power ade balik ke?
piston saiz 0.50.. carb rxz..

power loss...disebabkan byk faktor antaranya....bearing enjin yg semakin...lemah ..(lebih 4 tahun)...clucth plate haus...dll...sepatutnya tukar ring baru n polish ekzos port (buang arang) pasti leh upkan performance semula...benda2 lain yg leh wat...servis ekzos...carbs..head...good luck... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

ooo.. okeh2.. tukar ring dlu.. pastu polish balik.. kalu polish blok skali xpe ke? kedai mane leh wt ea? average baper rege?

- alang2 nak tukar ring...trs rebore je bro Very Happy Very Happy ...sekali rebore naik 0.25mm...kalo polish...event xcalar still dah ade clearance kat situ..masuk ring baru...silap2 lagi bising bunyi...d best rebore + ring baru...dah tentu fit... Laughing Laughing (pendapat junior mber)

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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Mon 3 Oct - 21:21:29

otai chaklek..nk tnye..slalu buka lubang xzos kalo stended bka 1 ke 2 mm??kiri kanan mau bka skali ke??piston 0.0
nk sedap bawak je..moto xlaju..huhu
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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Tue 4 Oct - 1:39:01

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otai chaklek..nk tnye..slalu buka lubang xzos kalo stended bka 1 ke 2 mm??kiri kanan mau bka skali ke??piston 0.0
nk sedap bawak je..moto xlaju..huhu

biasanya bukak 1mm je tgi ekzos port..kiri kanan xyah usik...biarkan maintain 38mm...nie utk 0.0 la...

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**korek yg bahagian atas k...bukan bahagian bawah...mcm dalam pic nie...



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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Tue 4 Oct - 3:11:39

cmne kalo port lubang ekzos buang bonggol tu?
dgr cite dpt cecah 180+ kalo buat cmtu...org ckp la clown clown clown

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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Tue 4 Oct - 12:39:10

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cmne kalo port lubang ekzos buang bonggol tu?
dgr cite dpt cecah 180+ kalo buat cmtu...org ckp la clown clown clown

kat sni bahagian bonggol yg di refer yg bahagian bawah kan??

- boleh jugak nak buat tapi utk 0.0 bore...rasenya xplu sbb bore terlalu comel...kalo dah bigbore mcm 56mm++...ok la nak kacau area situ sket...semakin besar bore semakin besar jumlah ...pembakaran (bahan api + udara)...jadi proses pembuangan gas melalui ekzos port pon perlu lebih lancar (besar)....

-kalo nak 180+...layan stock pon leh dapat...cuma lambat atau cepat je la... santa santa Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Tue 4 Oct - 14:36:01

chaklek wrote:
shrinklefritz wrote:
chaklek wrote:
shrinklefritz wrote:
naper power moto drop drpd dulu ea? piston ring pun da xbaper elok..
kalu tuka piston ring baru ngn polish balik blok agak2 power ade balik ke?
piston saiz 0.50.. carb rxz..

power loss...disebabkan byk faktor antaranya....bearing enjin yg semakin...lemah ..(lebih 4 tahun)...clucth plate haus...dll...sepatutnya tukar ring baru n polish ekzos port (buang arang) pasti leh upkan performance semula...benda2 lain yg leh wat...servis ekzos...carbs..head...good luck... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

ooo.. okeh2.. tukar ring dlu.. pastu polish balik.. kalu polish blok skali xpe ke? kedai mane leh wt ea? average baper rege?

- alang2 nak tukar ring...trs rebore je bro Very Happy Very Happy ...sekali rebore naik 0.25mm...kalo polish...event xcalar still dah ade clearance kat situ..masuk ring baru...silap2 lagi bising bunyi...d best rebore + ring baru...dah tentu fit... Laughing Laughing (pendapat junior mber)

tp kalau dah rebore maknenye piston saye da jd saiz 0.75 sbb skang pun da 0.50.. setting carb sume nk kne kacau balik ke xyah? malas nk kacau setting.. setting da cun2.. minyak sume okay da.. cume bunyi je bising ngn power kureng..

tp kalau saye tuka piston ring je okay ke? x polish.. just tuka ring ngn port ekzos.. buang arang sume.. okay ke?
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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Tue 4 Oct - 14:56:24

- kalo tukar ring je without rebore or polish...pon boleh...cuma effectnya ring baru..fitting keras ag...lama kelamaan akan menghakis dinding blok...nasib baik bunyi jadi x bising...kalo nasib xbaik...bunyi akan lebih bising dari dulu...sebab tue sy cadangkan trs rebore...sebab dapat piston + ring baru trs..kalo blok std xpyh jetting balik minyak+angin...tapi kalo dah nakal tue..mmg la kena clown clown ...just pendapat junior...kalo salah tolong betolkan Very Happy Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Tue 4 Oct - 21:11:40

chaklek wrote:
Dino wrote:
cmne kalo port lubang ekzos buang bonggol tu?
dgr cite dpt cecah 180+ kalo buat cmtu...org ckp la clown clown clown

kat sni bahagian bonggol yg di refer yg bahagian bawah kan??

- boleh jugak nak buat tapi utk 0.0 bore...rasenya xplu sbb bore terlalu comel...kalo dah bigbore mcm 56mm++...ok la nak kacau area situ sket...semakin besar bore semakin besar jumlah ...pembakaran (bahan api + udara)...jadi proses pembuangan gas melalui ekzos port pon perlu lebih lancar (besar)....

-kalo nak 180+...layan stock pon leh dapat...cuma lambat atau cepat je la... santa santa Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

lyan stock leh dpt 180+? cmne caranye? stakat tuka spocket, trun bukit leh la dpt Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Tue 4 Oct - 21:24:17

aiyooo..pening la blok2 ni.. scratch scratch
hahhhaha..aku dah byk kali jem
mule2 tukar ngn membe pki blok sz 0.75..ape lubang penyembur mcm bro fizz gtaw
yg steel tgh2 antar lubang tu dah nipis mcm sirip..
skali bobos..rod tembus piston..pomen ckp angin lebih.. No No No
skang dah piston dh saiz 150..jem panas plak..xtahu sape pandai setting..
tolong! tolong .. cheers cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Tue 4 Oct - 23:31:05

chaklek wrote:
satria_zr wrote:
otai chaklek..nk tnye..slalu buka lubang xzos kalo stended bka 1 ke 2 mm??kiri kanan mau bka skali ke??piston 0.0
nk sedap bawak je..moto xlaju..huhu

biasanya bukak 1mm je tgi ekzos port..kiri kanan xyah usik...biarkan maintain 38mm...nie utk 0.0 la...

[img][/img]


**korek yg bahagian atas k...bukan bahagian bawah...mcm dalam pic nie...




hehe..thanx chaklek..jasa mu dikenang..dr insan penat di tinggal kt blakang time blik tnjg malim
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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Tue 4 Oct - 23:32:53

Dino wrote:
chaklek wrote:
Dino wrote:
cmne kalo port lubang ekzos buang bonggol tu?
dgr cite dpt cecah 180+ kalo buat cmtu...org ckp la clown clown clown

kat sni bahagian bonggol yg di refer yg bahagian bawah kan??

- boleh jugak nak buat tapi utk 0.0 bore...rasenya xplu sbb bore terlalu comel...kalo dah bigbore mcm 56mm++...ok la nak kacau area situ sket...semakin besar bore semakin besar jumlah ...pembakaran (bahan api + udara)...jadi proses pembuangan gas melalui ekzos port pon perlu lebih lancar (besar)....

-kalo nak 180+...layan stock pon leh dapat...cuma lambat atau cepat je la... santa santa Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

lyan stock leh dpt 180+? cmne caranye? stakat tuka spocket, trun bukit leh la dpt Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


konfius..din ckap moto stended tp laju..aku men spoket pn xdpt ikut din la.. drunken drunken
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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Wed 5 Oct - 1:01:34

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- kalo tukar ring je without rebore or polish...pon boleh...cuma effectnya ring baru..fitting keras ag...lama kelamaan akan menghakis dinding blok...nasib baik bunyi jadi x bising...kalo nasib xbaik...bunyi akan lebih bising dari dulu...sebab tue sy cadangkan trs rebore...sebab dapat piston + ring baru trs..kalo blok std xpyh jetting balik minyak+angin...tapi kalo dah nakal tue..mmg la kena clown clown ...just pendapat junior...kalo salah tolong betolkan Very Happy Very Happy

haha.. blok x nakal agi.. cume piston je nakal.. hehe..so xyah set pun xpe kan.. sbb pkai carb z..
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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Wed 5 Oct - 1:11:21

shrinklefritz wrote:
chaklek wrote:
- kalo tukar ring je without rebore or polish...pon boleh...cuma effectnya ring baru..fitting keras ag...lama kelamaan akan menghakis dinding blok...nasib baik bunyi jadi x bising...kalo nasib xbaik...bunyi akan lebih bising dari dulu...sebab tue sy cadangkan trs rebore...sebab dapat piston + ring baru trs..kalo blok std xpyh jetting balik minyak+angin...tapi kalo dah nakal tue..mmg la kena clown clown ...just pendapat junior...kalo salah tolong betolkan Very Happy Very Happy

haha.. blok x nakal agi.. cume piston je nakal.. hehe..so xyah set pun xpe kan.. sbb pkai carb z..

-kalo jetting MJ + PJ dah ngam..xpayah set pape ag...


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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Wed 5 Oct - 1:25:53

chaklek wrote:
shrinklefritz wrote:
chaklek wrote:
- kalo tukar ring je without rebore or polish...pon boleh...cuma effectnya ring baru..fitting keras ag...lama kelamaan akan menghakis dinding blok...nasib baik bunyi jadi x bising...kalo nasib xbaik...bunyi akan lebih bising dari dulu...sebab tue sy cadangkan trs rebore...sebab dapat piston + ring baru trs..kalo blok std xpyh jetting balik minyak+angin...tapi kalo dah nakal tue..mmg la kena clown clown ...just pendapat junior...kalo salah tolong betolkan Very Happy Very Happy

haha.. blok x nakal agi.. cume piston je nakal.. hehe..so xyah set pun xpe kan.. sbb pkai carb z..

-kalo jetting MJ + PJ dah ngam..xpayah set pape ag...


okeh.. risau gak.. huhu.. kang rebore pastu x set takot jem je.. haha..
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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Wed 5 Oct - 1:26:53

- hehe setiap enjin walaupon spec sama...setting sama..pasti menghasilkan kuasa yg berbeza..ade +- .n sbb tue jugak amik cth Team2 cuprix (*Yamaha Maju Moto*)..Diaorg set 2-3 biji mto yg sama spec n test setiap satu utk dapatkan timing yg terbaik utk each rider...so pasti ade mto yg akan dapat lebih n kurang kelajuan event stock dari kilang.../spec sama...


- * Saya amik contoh Team nie sbb...kami di Byetools, salah seorang adviser for Mohd Taufiq Roslan - Rider Yamaha Maju Motor - CP130 (expert).. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Very Happy Very Happy santa santa

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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Thu 6 Oct - 23:00:41

chaklek wrote:
- hehe setiap enjin walaupon spec sama...setting sama..pasti menghasilkan kuasa yg berbeza..ade +- .n sbb tue jugak amik cth Team2 cuprix (*Yamaha Maju Moto*)..Diaorg set 2-3 biji mto yg sama spec n test setiap satu utk dapatkan timing yg terbaik utk each rider...so pasti ade mto yg akan dapat lebih n kurang kelajuan event stock dari kilang.../spec sama...


- * Saya amik contoh Team nie sbb...kami di Byetools, salah seorang adviser for Mohd Taufiq Roslan - Rider Yamaha Maju Motor - CP130 (expert).. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Very Happy Very Happy santa santa

ooo.. okay2.. ikot nsib gak laa nak dpt moto cun nie.. hehe..
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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Fri 7 Oct - 19:16:59

shrinklefritz wrote:
chaklek wrote:
- hehe setiap enjin walaupon spec sama...setting sama..pasti menghasilkan kuasa yg berbeza..ade +- .n sbb tue jugak amik cth Team2 cuprix (*Yamaha Maju Moto*)..Diaorg set 2-3 biji mto yg sama spec n test setiap satu utk dapatkan timing yg terbaik utk each rider...so pasti ade mto yg akan dapat lebih n kurang kelajuan event stock dari kilang.../spec sama...


- * Saya amik contoh Team nie sbb...kami di Byetools, salah seorang adviser for Mohd Taufiq Roslan - Rider Yamaha Maju Motor - CP130 (expert).. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Very Happy Very Happy santa santa

ooo.. okay2.. ikot nsib gak laa nak dpt moto cun nie.. hehe..

yupsss....yg penting manjakan tupai masing2...ngn parts berkualiti ...EO yg matap/fully synthetic...2t yg best... Very Happy Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Fri 28 Oct - 12:37:18

nk tny skit kat otai2 sekalian....
ap beza blok yg ad Y-1 n so on tu....
org kata lg licin..xtaw la... scratch scratch
and ap kelebihan blok Y-1 ni ?? scratch scratch
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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Sat 29 Oct - 17:46:50

aku nk tanya ni... aku rasa relevant ngn topic ni... kalo port exzos aku tu cm bocor(ada minyak kuar2 skit), ada effect apa2 kt enjin x? aku tanya pomen tu dia kata kene tuka gasket... tpi aku malas lu nk bukak block enjin tuh... nk tanya ada effect jangka masa panjang x
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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Sat 29 Oct - 18:23:29

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nk tny skit kat otai2 sekalian....
ap beza blok yg ad Y-1 n so on tu....
org kata lg licin..xtaw la... scratch scratch
and ap kelebihan blok Y-1 ni ?? scratch scratch
hope otai2 leh membantu...

bezanye, blok terawal cm Y-1 sleeve nye lg tebal n tahan panas berbanding blok
skang i-1 or i-2... Y-1 n Y-2 leh up bore smpai size 1.5 enduro...besar kn?? Shocked Shocked What a Face

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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Sat 29 Oct - 22:54:48

Dino wrote:
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nk tny skit kat otai2 sekalian....
ap beza blok yg ad Y-1 n so on tu....
org kata lg licin..xtaw la... scratch scratch
and ap kelebihan blok Y-1 ni ?? scratch scratch
hope otai2 leh membantu...

bezanye, blok terawal cm Y-1 sleeve nye lg tebal n tahan panas berbanding blok
skang i-1 or i-2... Y-1 n Y-2 leh up bore smpai size 1.5 enduro...besar kn?? Shocked Shocked What a Face

lao blok Y-1 ni change ngan blok 125 yg sedia ad,,cun x???
ad ap2 bad effect x???
n performance cmner lak???
agak2 nk kene wat modifikasi yg teruk x?,,cm nk kene tukar piston ke,,ap ke??
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PostSubject: Re: BLOK, HEAD & PROSES PEMBAKARAN   Sun 30 Oct - 4:58:29

Paktam wrote:
aku nk tanya ni... aku rasa relevant ngn topic ni... kalo port exzos aku tu cm bocor(ada minyak kuar2 skit), ada effect apa2 kt enjin x? aku tanya pomen tu dia kata kene tuka gasket... tpi aku malas lu nk bukak block enjin tuh... nk tanya ada effect jangka masa panjang x

elok buka n tukar gasket..
coz ble bocor pressure kurang,minyak kuat..
gasket bru bape inggit..
beter tukar gasket ye bro..
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