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are_mair wrote:
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nk tny skit kat otai2 sekalian....
ap beza blok yg ad Y-1 n so on tu....
org kata lg licin..xtaw la... scratch scratch
and ap kelebihan blok Y-1 ni ?? scratch scratch
hope otai2 leh membantu...

bezanye, blok terawal cm Y-1 sleeve nye lg tebal n tahan panas berbanding blok
skang i-1 or i-2... Y-1 n Y-2 leh up bore smpai size 1.5 enduro...besar kn?? Shocked Shocked What a Face

lao blok Y-1 ni change ngan blok 125 yg sedia ad,,cun x???
ad ap2 bad effect x???
n performance cmner lak???
agak2 nk kene wat modifikasi yg teruk x?,,cm nk kene tukar piston ke,,ap ke??

beza pd material kualiti je blok y1 ni..
kalo nk tuka ngn blok tupai baru xde pe masalah..same je..
performance mgkin same cume kalo set xcun jem gak akhirnye walaupun blok y1
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satria_zr wrote:
are_mair wrote:
Dino wrote:
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nk tny skit kat otai2 sekalian....
ap beza blok yg ad Y-1 n so on tu....
org kata lg licin..xtaw la... scratch scratch
and ap kelebihan blok Y-1 ni ?? scratch scratch
hope otai2 leh membantu...

bezanye, blok terawal cm Y-1 sleeve nye lg tebal n tahan panas berbanding blok
skang i-1 or i-2... Y-1 n Y-2 leh up bore smpai size 1.5 enduro...besar kn?? Shocked Shocked What a Face

lao blok Y-1 ni change ngan blok 125 yg sedia ad,,cun x???
ad ap2 bad effect x???
n performance cmner lak???
agak2 nk kene wat modifikasi yg teruk x?,,cm nk kene tukar piston ke,,ap ke??

beza pd material kualiti je blok y1 ni..
kalo nk tuka ngn blok tupai baru xde pe masalah..same je..
performance mgkin same cume kalo set xcun jem gak akhirnye walaupun blok y1


ouh,,ok2...
thanks a lot bro2 n otai2 sekalian.. Wink Wink
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satria_zr wrote:
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aku nk tanya ni... aku rasa relevant ngn topic ni... kalo port exzos aku tu cm bocor(ada minyak kuar2 skit), ada effect apa2 kt enjin x? aku tanya pomen tu dia kata kene tuka gasket... tpi aku malas lu nk bukak block enjin tuh... nk tanya ada effect jangka masa panjang x

elok buka n tukar gasket..
coz ble bocor pressure kurang,minyak kuat..
gasket bru bape inggit..
beter tukar gasket ye bro..


aku da tuka da gasket... kt area aku ni rm5... tpi kedai dkt umah aku tu dia nk ketuk aku smpai rm15... gila... naseb aku gi town tanya truz tuka...
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Paktam wrote:
satria_zr wrote:
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aku nk tanya ni... aku rasa relevant ngn topic ni... kalo port exzos aku tu cm bocor(ada minyak kuar2 skit), ada effect apa2 kt enjin x? aku tanya pomen tu dia kata kene tuka gasket... tpi aku malas lu nk bukak block enjin tuh... nk tanya ada effect jangka masa panjang x

elok buka n tukar gasket..
coz ble bocor pressure kurang,minyak kuat..
gasket bru bape inggit..
beter tukar gasket ye bro..


aku da tuka da gasket... kt area aku ni rm5... tpi kedai dkt umah aku tu dia nk ketuk aku smpai rm15... gila... naseb aku gi town tanya truz tuka...

bese a 2..upah brbeza setiap kedai..
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aku nk tanya skit nieh(byk gak)... aku ni bru agi menyelami alam moto ni... soalan simple je... cmna korang kira size block tuh... sorry soalan nubis... saya budak bru nk blajar...
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aku nk tanya skit nieh(byk gak)... aku ni bru agi menyelami alam moto ni... soalan simple je... cmna korang kira size block tuh... sorry soalan nubis... saya budak bru nk blajar...

- hmm..size blok lebih merujuk kepada saiz bore, atau saiz piston...nak belajar cepat..sila baca technical specification jentera Y125z...std bore original ialah 0.0=53.8mm...setiap kali rebore/lay/potong blok aka cylinder...akan menambah 0.25mm saiz..jadi dekat permukaan piston biasanya ade tulis saiz... Very Happy Very Happy ....harap membantu bounce Very Happy
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chaklek wrote:
Paktam wrote:
aku nk tanya skit nieh(byk gak)... aku ni bru agi menyelami alam moto ni... soalan simple je... cmna korang kira size block tuh... sorry soalan nubis... saya budak bru nk blajar...

- hmm..size blok lebih merujuk kepada saiz bore, atau saiz piston...nak belajar cepat..sila baca technical specification jentera Y125z...std bore original ialah 0.0=53.8mm...setiap kali rebore/lay/potong blok aka cylinder...akan menambah 0.25mm saiz..jadi dekat permukaan piston biasanya ade tulis saiz... Very Happy Very Happy ....harap membantu bounce Very Happy

Yg size tu merujuk kepada lebar erk? Cm diameter?
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..saiz kat piston dia xtulis diameter piston (Bore)...dia akan tulis 0.25..0.50..0.75..1.00 - ****
- kan suh baca technical spec tadi...0.0 = 53.8mm...jadi 0.25 = 54.05mm+-...beterusan...

nak ukur diameter piston (bore)..lebih kurang mcm nie....

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Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad affraid affraid ...sila abaikan pic conrod Rx-Z..piston DT175 66mm, dan lain2..hahaha
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1 info yg bagus utk org seperti saya ini,setelah dikira2 pada moto saya kini,dah rebore dan pakai piston 125z 1.00mm.. 53.8mm+1.00mm=54.8mm.
err 54.8mm port lubang ekjos yg sesuai berapa mm? utk sedap berjalan sahaja Laughing
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popsoda wrote:
1 info yg bagus utk org seperti saya ini,setelah dikira2 pada moto saya kini,dah rebore dan pakai piston 125z 1.00mm.. 53.8mm+1.00mm=54.8mm.
err 54.8mm port lubang ekjos yg sesuai berapa mm? utk sedap berjalan sahaja Laughing

- ade sowg mat saleh cakap : Gordon Jenning, dlm buku nye...untuk beginner leh guna 60%-70% dari saiz bore, advance 70% -80% utk Ekzos Port Witdh (lebar ekzos)...tgi pulak agak subjektif yg mane..depend on kegunaan...kalo nak sedap berjalan dlm range :31mm - 30mm...std tgi ekzos port 32mm.... Very Happy Very Happy pirat santa cheers Very Happy alien clown What a Face
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chaklek wrote:
..saiz kat piston dia xtulis diameter piston (Bore)...dia akan tulis 0.25..0.50..0.75..1.00 - ****
- kan suh baca technical spec tadi...0.0 = 53.8mm...jadi 0.25 = 54.05mm+-...beterusan...

nak ukur diameter piston (bore)..lebih kurang mcm nie....

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Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad affraid affraid ...sila abaikan pic conrod Rx-Z..piston DT175 66mm, dan lain2..hahaha

Okok... Skrg phm ar skit... Coz aku pun bru je bejinak2 dunia pemotoran ni... Kirenye diameter tu saiz dia la... Tu yg aku phm setakat ni... Kn kt page 1 ada lubang minyak tuh, tu dlm lubang cylinder la? Kalo rebore kirenye xde effect kt lubang2 tuh?
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as salam semua....
ape kesan nye kalu blok tu di rebus dlm minyak hitam?
bleh jadi kn blok tu power ker?
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su wrote:
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as salam semua....
ape kesan nye kalu blok tu di rebus dlm minyak hitam?
bleh jadi kn blok tu power ker?

ni sup sumsum tupai ke?..
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NCH_KU wrote:
su wrote:
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as salam semua....
ape kesan nye kalu blok tu di rebus dlm minyak hitam?
bleh jadi kn blok tu power ker?

ni sup sumsum tupai ke?..

wah..mcm semart je..ape function wat cmtu..1st time aku dgr.. scratch
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stokinm88 wrote:
NCH_KU wrote:
su wrote:
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as salam semua....
ape kesan nye kalu blok tu di rebus dlm minyak hitam?
bleh jadi kn blok tu power ker?

ni sup sumsum tupai ke?..

wah..mcm semart je..ape function wat cmtu..1st time aku dgr.. scratch


bnda ni mgkin bg effect pd microstructure kat blok tu kot...
sbb setiap besi ad microstructure yg trsndiri,,tp bnda ni leh ubah dgn beberapa cara...
bila microstructure tu berubah ini sekaligus mengubah sifat besi tu sndri...
-ini jelah yg sy taw wat mse ni,,sdikit ilmu d zaman sekolah dlu..hhehe-
-hope pd otai2 leh btolkn lao ad slh-
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...hahha..mcm2 la..siap rebus blok pon ade..microsctructure pon ade...rasenya kaedah yg sesuai utk merubah sifat besi ialah Heat treatment Very Happy Very Happy ...kenapa blok diperbuat dari aloi??? bukan besi??... Question Question Question
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chaklek wrote:
...hahha..mcm2 la..siap rebus blok pon ade..microsctructure pon ade...rasenya kaedah yg sesuai utk merubah sifat besi ialah Heat treatment Very Happy Very Happy ...kenapa blok diperbuat dari aloi??? bukan besi??... Question Question Question

Aloi merupakan gabungan lebih daripada 1 unsur...itu je aku taw..hehe
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kalau rebus blok mcm dlm gambar tu..blok tu jd lbih tahan lasak ker?? huhu
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nk best xpayah rebus..kasi bakar dalam arang terus..kompom keras.. drunken
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chaklek wrote:
...hahha..mcm2 la..siap rebus blok pon ade..microsctructure pon ade...rasenya kaedah yg sesuai utk merubah sifat besi ialah Heat treatment Very Happy Very Happy ...kenapa blok diperbuat dari aloi??? bukan besi??... Question Question Question

sory2...heat treatment tu la yg nk sbut....tp trlupa....heheheehe....
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are_mair wrote:
chaklek wrote:
...hahha..mcm2 la..siap rebus blok pon ade..microsctructure pon ade...rasenya kaedah yg sesuai utk merubah sifat besi ialah Heat treatment Very Happy Very Happy ...kenapa blok diperbuat dari aloi??? bukan besi??... Question Question Question

sory2...heat treatment tu la yg nk sbut....tp trlupa....heheheehe....

ptt mcm pelik je dgr..xpe..kita saling perbetolkan each other.. Very Happy Very Happy

- blok diperbuat dari aloi sbb nak cepat sejuk...selain ia lebih keras utk tahan hakisan n lebih ringan... Very Happy Very Happy (ye ker nie..??)
- rebus2 nie sy lom pernah jumpa...in real..even...kat bengkel Tuner CP pon xbuat mcm nie...hahaha...jap g tanya Yo Ying Hoe (Yamaha Maju Motor) jap santa clown clown
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fuh rebus blok dlm Eo,selalu saya dgr org byk bt pada tahun 90an,lebih2 lagi lepas rebore terus rebus mcm gitu,tapi entah la saya pn x penah bt.. Rolling Eyes
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Aku nk tanya skit pasal blok resing ni... Kalo nk sarung blok resing 57mm kt tupai stendet ok x? Tahan x kalo lenjan je keje? Agak2 boleh tahan brapa lama? N kalo pakai carb 125 stendet pj n mj agak2 kne set brapa?
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Paktam wrote:
Aku nk tanya skit pasal blok resing ni... Kalo nk sarung blok resing 57mm kt tupai stendet ok x? Tahan x kalo lenjan je keje? Agak2 boleh tahan brapa lama? N kalo pakai carb 125 stendet pj n mj agak2 kne set brapa?

- sebelom pakai blok racing nie...better pk dulu..kalo nak kan kelajuan..+..ketahanan...ade sedikit nasihat =" Dont waste ur money"..kenapa??..sebabnya, material yg sure xtahan..aka blok cepat panas..mengembang..2nd..ukuran tranfer port,ekzos port , dan boost port yg xaccurate...(mto cepat lembik aka Drop)..

cadangan : blok ori terbaik...kalo nak rase kuasa sebenar bigbore (57mm = 1.00 dt125/enduro) Very Happy Very Happy bounce bounce
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chaklek wrote:
Paktam wrote:
Aku nk tanya skit pasal blok resing ni... Kalo nk sarung blok resing 57mm kt tupai stendet ok x? Tahan x kalo lenjan je keje? Agak2 boleh tahan brapa lama? N kalo pakai carb 125 stendet pj n mj agak2 kne set brapa?

- sebelom pakai blok racing nie...better pk dulu..kalo nak kan kelajuan..+..ketahanan...ade sedikit nasihat =" Dont waste ur money"..kenapa??..sebabnya, material yg sure xtahan..aka blok cepat panas..mengembang..2nd..ukuran tranfer port,ekzos port , dan boost port yg xaccurate...(mto cepat lembik aka Drop)..

cadangan : blok ori terbaik...kalo nak rase kuasa sebenar bigbore (57mm = 1.00 dt125/enduro) Very Happy Very Happy bounce bounce

Option ni crik blok spare ori tuk rebore la? Okok... Pastu rebore maximum smpai brapa kali? Brapa mm?
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