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PostSubject: Re: Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z   Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 14 Mar - 0:12:40
style gak piston ni..
tp bukan lagi cepat panas ke kalo pakai single ring..wat jalan2 bese..
xsilap men sprint je rmai pakai yg single ring..
sy xtau..tlg tunjukkan
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PostSubject: Re: Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z   Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 14 Mar - 11:37:05
satria_zr wrote:
style gak piston ni..
tp bukan lagi cepat panas ke kalo pakai single ring..wat jalan2 bese..
xsilap men sprint je rmai pakai yg single ring..
sy xtau..tlg tunjukkan


Pada pendapat aku..kalau ikut logik akal dan fikiran lagi banyak (benda @ bahan) sentuhan akan lagi cepat panas....

-"Kami budak baru belajar ,Kalau salah tolong tunjukkan"-
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PostSubject: Re: Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z   Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 14 Mar - 14:27:22
Sopakk TM wrote:
satria_zr wrote:
style gak piston ni..
tp bukan lagi cepat panas ke kalo pakai single ring..wat jalan2 bese..
xsilap men sprint je rmai pakai yg single ring..
sy xtau..tlg tunjukkan


Pada pendapat aku..kalau ikut logik akal dan fikiran lagi banyak (benda @ bahan) sentuhan akan lagi cepat panas....

-"Kami budak baru belajar ,Kalau salah tolong tunjukkan"-

ak stuju ngn sopa...more surface attach to another surface will result more friction and more
heat will produce...itu konsep fizik yg ak tau...ape teori bro satria ckp single piston ring
cpt panas?? ko kn student engineering...kasi teori sket Razz Very Happy clown
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PostSubject: Re: Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z   Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 14 Mar - 16:56:53
aku tak setuju..
kalau camtu..kenapa ramai org sprint test pakai single ring?

bile single ring..berat/beban conrod untuk berputar lebih rendah..
oleh itu..dari 0 ke top rpm lebih cpt..
ring yg kt bwh tu..sebagai backup comrpession..
kalau pakai 1 ring je..compression tu ditampung sepenuhnye oleh single ring tu je..

p/s: info ni aku dpt bace kt mbc bertahun lepas..wallahualam
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PostSubject: Re: Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z   Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 14 Mar - 18:57:56
TC wrote:
aku tak setuju..
kalau camtu..kenapa ramai org sprint test pakai single ring?

bile single ring..berat/beban conrod untuk berputar lebih rendah..
oleh itu..dari 0 ke top rpm lebih cpt..
ring yg kt bwh tu..sebagai backup comrpession..
kalau pakai 1 ring je..compression tu ditampung sepenuhnye oleh single ring tu je..

p/s: info ni aku dpt bace kt mbc bertahun lepas..wallahualam


Aku setuju dgn info ko...memang betul banyak moto sprint test guna single ring kerana utk mengurang kn berat/beban conrod semasa berputar dan juga utk mengurangkan tekanan beban ring yang bergeseran dgn silinder block.

Apabila enjin sudah diringankan atau diupgrade maka pergerakan sistem juga akan lebih cepat dan pantas jadi kepanasan juga (overheating)akan cepat berlaku... jadi tindakan utk mengurangkan kepanasan adalh... dgn menggunakan sistem pendingin cth sistem air,angin dan pelincir seperti minyak 2T yg terbaik.

-"Kami budak baru belajar,kalau salah tolong tunjukkan"-
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PostSubject: Re: Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z   Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 14 Mar - 20:17:52
Jadi, apekah kesanny klu single ring nie wat daily ride?? study
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PostSubject: Re: Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z   Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 14 Mar - 23:18:46
TC wrote:
aku tak setuju..
kalau camtu..kenapa ramai org sprint test pakai single ring?

bile single ring..berat/beban conrod untuk berputar lebih rendah..
oleh itu..dari 0 ke top rpm lebih cpt..
ring yg kt bwh tu..sebagai backup comrpession..
kalau pakai 1 ring je..compression tu ditampung sepenuhnye oleh single ring tu je..

p/s: info ni aku dpt bace kt mbc bertahun lepas..wallahualam

owh...jdnye single piston ring ni mmg cpt panas la ye? jd, gne single or double
ring hanya effect pd kereaktifan piston n sekutunye...heat tetap maximum
n 2T or cecair je yg kurangkn heat... Wink clown
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PostSubject: Re: Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z   Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun 28 Aug - 0:07:36
Dino wrote:
TC wrote:
aku tak setuju..
kalau camtu..kenapa ramai org sprint test pakai single ring?

bile single ring..berat/beban conrod untuk berputar lebih rendah..
oleh itu..dari 0 ke top rpm lebih cpt..
ring yg kt bwh tu..sebagai backup comrpession..
kalau pakai 1 ring je..compression tu ditampung sepenuhnye oleh single ring tu je..

p/s: info ni aku dpt bace kt mbc bertahun lepas..wallahualam

owh...jdnye single piston ring ni mmg cpt panas la ye? jd, gne single or double
ring hanya effect pd kereaktifan piston n sekutunye...heat tetap maximum
n 2T or cecair je yg kurangkn heat... Wink clown


em...asenya 1ring akn lbh kurang geseran..
tapi kan...tapi kan..
piston lagi laju + pmbkran lagi tggi....
bgntung pada material + 2T yg dgnkn + stting...
lau krg geseran, tp material murah, cpt gak rosaknya...

cheers newbis kubisss....heh2
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PostSubject: Re: Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z   Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep - 23:54:13
Very Happy Very Happy ..just bagi pendapat seorang nubis..single ring xsesuai daily ride...setuju ngn pendapat kawan2..motot2 event je yg guna especially drag..tapi for 1km n long distance kurang reliable.

better go for bigbore kits....sket info untk semua

2.00 tupai = 0.0 rxz/Dt125/LC125 =56mm
2.00 rxz = 0.0 RXk/Honda rider =58mm

conrod std 125z sesuai utk piston Enduro/dt125....sbb pin piston sama....
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chaklek wrote:
Very Happy Very Happy ..just bagi pendapat seorang nubis..single ring xsesuai daily ride...setuju ngn pendapat kawan2..motot2 event je yg guna especially drag..tapi for 1km n long distance kurang reliable.

better go for bigbore kits....sket info untk semua

2.00 tupai = 0.0 rxz/Dt125/LC125 =56mm
2.00 rxz = 0.0 RXk/Honda rider =58mm

conrod std 125z sesuai utk piston Enduro/dt125....sbb pin piston sama....

nk bg pndpat jgk...ak dpt tau 2.15 tupai baru same ngn 0.0 rxz...kirenye exact value la...
sbb ak pnah kira ngn calipper...mgkin tu ralat...sy org baru jgk...pndapat ciput je Razz Razz Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z   Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 27 Sep - 6:41:24
dah xpyh nk gadoh2...
ampa ni pki ja stendet..pomen jepun pecah pala bt moto ampa nk modified2..
aik xpuas aty btoi..bersyukur jelah dgn apa yg ada...

tp kan yap if pki single ring ni long menten tahan ka?
kang xpasai2 taya belakang sagat tar..hehehe..


ak pki pisten trim ja..alhamdunilah ok..pki japan mcm2 jenama ada
contoh : top,riken (rk), npr (nipon pisten ring),koyo,

ak pki trim ja mampu..mto buruk xlaju mmg pki brg murah..

bab brg ni xtaw nk ckp la..cm RB dia femes so kna letak mahai brg lak berkualiti..
tgk mcm brg TAN LAN leh thn la design tp xpenah try sbb jenama cam haaram pastu kualiti kan..ahha


sy bru belajaq kalo salah sekeh2 bontot sy...
dan lg 1


PLEASA TO ALL MY FRIEND IN THIS CLUB TO SPEAK IN MALAY..WE ARE MALAYSIAN BAHASA MELAYU IS OUR BAHASA U ALL KNOW RITE...TQ FOREVER...
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PostSubject: Re: Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z   Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 28 Sep - 1:19:17
Dino wrote:
chaklek wrote:
Very Happy Very Happy ..just bagi pendapat seorang nubis..single ring xsesuai daily ride...setuju ngn pendapat kawan2..motot2 event je yg guna especially drag..tapi for 1km n long distance kurang reliable.

better go for bigbore kits....sket info untk semua

2.00 tupai = 0.0 rxz/Dt125/LC125 =56mm
2.00 rxz = 0.0 RXk/Honda rider =58mm

conrod std 125z sesuai utk piston Enduro/dt125....sbb pin piston sama....

nk bg pndpat jgk...ak dpt tau 2.15 tupai baru same ngn 0.0 rxz...kirenye exact value la...
sbb ak pnah kira ngn calipper...mgkin tu ralat...sy org baru jgk...pndapat ciput je Razz Razz Razz

itu dah pasti sebab 0.0 tupai kan 53.8mm...rxz/enduro 0.0 = 54mm...kat sni dah ade clearance 0.2mm...kalo faoundry yg dah otai dia akan rebore @ potong blok cun2 ikot size rxz/Dt125...tapi kebanyakkan kita akan pakai conrod tupai std + piston enduro/DT125 -save budjet xplu tkr conrod.... Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z   Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 28 Sep - 3:26:21
chaklek wrote:
Dino wrote:
chaklek wrote:
Very Happy Very Happy ..just bagi pendapat seorang nubis..single ring xsesuai daily ride...setuju ngn pendapat kawan2..motot2 event je yg guna especially drag..tapi for 1km n long distance kurang reliable.

better go for bigbore kits....sket info untk semua

2.00 tupai = 0.0 rxz/Dt125/LC125 =56mm
2.00 rxz = 0.0 RXk/Honda rider =58mm

conrod std 125z sesuai utk piston Enduro/dt125....sbb pin piston sama....

nk bg pndpat jgk...ak dpt tau 2.15 tupai baru same ngn 0.0 rxz...kirenye exact value la...
sbb ak pnah kira ngn calipper...mgkin tu ralat...sy org baru jgk...pndapat ciput je Razz Razz Razz

itu dah pasti sebab 0.0 tupai kan 53.8mm...rxz/enduro 0.0 = 54mm...kat sni dah ade clearance 0.2mm...kalo faoundry yg dah otai dia akan rebore @ potong blok cun2 ikot size rxz/Dt125...tapi kebanyakkan kita akan pakai conrod tupai std + piston enduro/DT125 -save budjet xplu tkr conrod.... Very Happy Very Happy

ape pula beza piston enduro ngn piston rxz? size same kn(0.0)?
piston rxz xsesuai ngn conrod 125z ke? kne tuka? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes



*siap ko chaklek...ak nk test ko satu2 Razz Razz Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z   Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 28 Sep - 13:46:27
Dino wrote:
chaklek wrote:
Dino wrote:
chaklek wrote:
Very Happy Very Happy ..just bagi pendapat seorang nubis..single ring xsesuai daily ride...setuju ngn pendapat kawan2..motot2 event je yg guna especially drag..tapi for 1km n long distance kurang reliable.

better go for bigbore kits....sket info untk semua

2.00 tupai = 0.0 rxz/Dt125/LC125 =56mm
2.00 rxz = 0.0 RXk/Honda rider =58mm

conrod std 125z sesuai utk piston Enduro/dt125....sbb pin piston sama....

nk bg pndpat jgk...ak dpt tau 2.15 tupai baru same ngn 0.0 rxz...kirenye exact value la...
sbb ak pnah kira ngn calipper...mgkin tu ralat...sy org baru jgk...pndapat ciput je Razz Razz Razz

itu dah pasti sebab 0.0 tupai kan 53.8mm...rxz/enduro 0.0 = 54mm...kat sni dah ade clearance 0.2mm...kalo faoundry yg dah otai dia akan rebore @ potong blok cun2 ikot size rxz/Dt125...tapi kebanyakkan kita akan pakai conrod tupai std + piston enduro/DT125 -save budjet xplu tkr conrod.... Very Happy Very Happy

ape pula beza piston enduro ngn piston rxz? size same kn(0.0)?
piston rxz xsesuai ngn conrod 125z ke? kne tuka? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes



*siap ko chaklek...ak nk test ko satu2 Razz Razz Razz

- hahaaha..dari segi size mmg la sama 0.0=54mm...yg beza nye tgi pin piston...n rupa piston tersebot...
- panjang conrod 125z =110mm...conrod rxz/enduro =105mm...kalo nak pakai piston rxz kat 125z...kena tukar conrod RXZ/Enduro sekali...kalo x dah tentu terjojol keluar 5mm... Very Happy Very Happy
- so xnak pening kepala n nak jimat leh guna conrod 125z + piston enduro....tapi yg nie sesuai utk bore 58mm kebawah la... bounce bounce

* TIDAK....Tuan president mau test sy Wink Wink
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....Alamak tersasul lak Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad ...pembetulan...0.0 RXZ/Enduro =56mm bukan 54mm...sekali salah da...
....So 2.00 tupai =55.8mm.... bounce bounce
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....Belanja sket gambiran conrod2 kat bengkel...
Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 DSCF1950


Dari kiri: connecting Rod Enduro@DT125, RXZ, 125z
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chaklek wrote:
....Alamak tersasul lak Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad ...pembetulan...0.0 RXZ/Enduro =56mm bukan 54mm...sekali salah da...
....So 2.00 tupai =55.8mm.... bounce bounce

cpt pula dia btulkn hahaha Razz Razz Razz
tp ak cm detect sdikit kesilapan...bro ckp nk save bajet guna guna conrod 125z + piston enduro...
bkn ke guna conrod 125z + piston DT125? scratch sbb piston enduro same ngn piston rxz... Rolling Eyes
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Dino wrote:
chaklek wrote:
....Alamak tersasul lak Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad ...pembetulan...0.0 RXZ/Enduro =56mm bukan 54mm...sekali salah da...
....So 2.00 tupai =55.8mm.... bounce bounce

cpt pula dia btulkn hahaha Razz Razz Razz
tp ak cm detect sdikit kesilapan...bro ckp nk save bajet guna guna conrod 125z + piston enduro...
bkn ke guna conrod 125z + piston DT125? scratch sbb piston enduro same ngn piston rxz... Rolling Eyes

- Very Happy Very Happy ..jap2 bukan ke piston enduro tue adalah DT125???...pin piston pon sama???
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chaklek wrote:
Dino wrote:
chaklek wrote:
....Alamak tersasul lak Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad ...pembetulan...0.0 RXZ/Enduro =56mm bukan 54mm...sekali salah da...
....So 2.00 tupai =55.8mm.... bounce bounce

cpt pula dia btulkn hahaha Razz Razz Razz
tp ak cm detect sdikit kesilapan...bro ckp nk save bajet guna guna conrod 125z + piston enduro...
bkn ke guna conrod 125z + piston DT125? scratch sbb piston enduro same ngn piston rxz... Rolling Eyes

- Very Happy Very Happy ..jap2 bukan ke piston enduro tue adalah DT125???...pin piston pon sama???

ah sudah...ak pn da jd pning...same ke? xpnah pkai...sbb muto stended Razz Razz Razz


*btul la tu... DT125 tu piston enduro...xnk lah test chaklek lg...dia da otai sgt huhu Cool
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Dino wrote:
chaklek wrote:
Dino wrote:
chaklek wrote:
....Alamak tersasul lak Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad ...pembetulan...0.0 RXZ/Enduro =56mm bukan 54mm...sekali salah da...
....So 2.00 tupai =55.8mm.... bounce bounce

cpt pula dia btulkn hahaha Razz Razz Razz
tp ak cm detect sdikit kesilapan...bro ckp nk save bajet guna guna conrod 125z + piston enduro...
bkn ke guna conrod 125z + piston DT125? scratch sbb piston enduro same ngn piston rxz... Rolling Eyes

- Very Happy Very Happy ..jap2 bukan ke piston enduro tue adalah DT125???...pin piston pon sama???

ah sudah...ak pn da jd pning...same ke? xpnah pkai...sbb muto stended Razz Razz Razz


*btul la tu... DT125 tu piston enduro...xnk lah test chaklek lg...dia da otai sgt huhu Cool



Very Happy Very Happy otai la dgn yg x otai...

saya payung pic jumpa..nie affraid Twisted Evil Twisted Evil



[img]Cerita Mengenai Piston 125z - Page 2 DSCF1958[/img]

* Kiri piston enduro atau DT125 (saiz xingat)...kanan RXking (1.00 = 59mm)....
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utk model2 RX..rxz ke rxk ke rxs ke..permukaan atas piston tu lebih berbonggol..
kalau nk pakai piston rxz atau piston k kt 125z..kene modi head..kalau tak mmg hantuk plug..
sbb tu kalau budak nk oversize..dorang pakai piston DT.. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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utk model2 RX..rxz ke rxk ke rxs ke..permukaan atas piston tu lebih berbonggol..
kalau nk pakai piston rxz atau piston k kt 125z..kene modi head..kalau tak mmg hantuk plug..
sbb tu kalau budak nk oversize..dorang pakai piston DT.. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

- tapi piston DT pling besar 3.00 =59mm kalo xsilap...sleeve std 125z leh rebore sampai 1.75 DT je..(blok tahun <2011)...pastu dah nampak aloi...so maksimum sleeve std leh sampai 57.75mm...so kalo nak superbigbore kit aka 58mm keatas...terpaksa resleeve...tukar conrod... Very Happy Very Happy

macam blok nie...entah sape punya tah.. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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chaklek wrote:
TC wrote:
utk model2 RX..rxz ke rxk ke rxs ke..permukaan atas piston tu lebih berbonggol..
kalau nk pakai piston rxz atau piston k kt 125z..kene modi head..kalau tak mmg hantuk plug..
sbb tu kalau budak nk oversize..dorang pakai piston DT.. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

- tapi piston DT pling besar 3.00 =59mm kalo xsilap...sleeve std 125z leh rebore sampai 1.75 DT je..(blok tahun <2011)...pastu dah nampak aloi...so maksimum sleeve std leh sampai 57.75mm...so kalo nak superbigbore kit aka 58mm keatas...terpaksa resleeve...tukar conrod... Very Happy Very Happy

macam blok nie...entah sape punya tah.. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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pergh...gile nipis...cm blok racing je ni huhu tongue tongue tongue
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Very Happy ..yups resleeve...59mm n leh rebore sampai 60mm....material lagi baik...dari blok racing faito...
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chaklek wrote:
Very Happy ..yups resleeve...59mm n leh rebore sampai 60mm....material lagi baik...dari blok racing faito...

yeke material lg baik? ak dgr cite blok ni mudah crack...phm2 la kalo gne blok
ni mmg xkn bwk slow pnye...tp xsetahan blok ori 125z...hrga xsilap ak RM250+..
nk gne kejap utk rase pngalaman tgk sndiri meter smpai N bleh la clown clown clown clown

opsss...tu pndapat je n rumors org2 ckp...bkn fact tepat...
nnt otai chaklek btulkn...sy mnympuk je...newbies What a Face What a Face What a Face
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